cjghuang 發表於 2012-11-14 21:44 
bk in 1949, KMT still fighting the communist in china and finally chiang kai-shek moved to taiwan ...
so ye, KMT fought the commies, and seriously dude, have u ever talk to any of the old vets?
bunch of my uncle grandpas like that, says chinese should all reunite, and i asked them if they believe we can attack back? lol
guess what they have said? we can surrender~ its not like they will kill us, we are all chinese and commies are not commies anymore.
so here u go, the old vets. they really love tw? or love china? they are even in doubt in being loyal to KMT.
and a very simple thing, i assume u live outside of tw, when ppl ask u where u from, do u say taiwan or china?
I understand where you're coming from, but you're making a couple mistakes here. You're uncle grandpas and my grandpas of that generation are the same. They don't see that China and Taiwan as a separate entity culturally, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's also questionable to take the views of senile people very seriously, and it's even more wrong to generalize it to the general population. I can tell you, my grandpas never said the words "surrender" when I asked them the same question. What they are trying to express is not "surrendering" to China, but the unison of a race that's been troubled by civil war for the past century. Now tell me what's so ridiculous about their stance in the Taiwan-China issue? Anyways of looking at that you can say old vets have peaceful intentions. In our generation, we view Taiwan and China independent from each other is none - other than political and social reasons. However, the big picture is the same, our culture is Chinese culture.
As for KMT killing people in Taiwan, you have to realize a couple things. Before KMT came Taiwan was a colony, anyone from that generation would have told you, only the elites of the elites like President Lee Deng Hui would have gotten a chance at a better education. The Taiwanese people were not treated as citizens with actual rights.
One of the first thing that KMT did when they came was land reformation. They redivided the land from the comparatively rich to the farmers. That caused major grief to the Taiwanese, but it did bring better social benefits to farmers. It's also interesting to note when the KMT came, they weren't exactly knights in shining armor: they were a defeated army consists of poor and lowly educated people. The Taiwanese people weren't happy with the KMT and so they rioted. The KMT were scared of potential rebellion and so they killed, and started decades of martial law afterwards.
What I want to say is this: The coming of KMT weren't the happiest part of the history, but they did bring better reforms, and most importantly citizenship rights and privileges. Is it better to live as second rated colonized people, or
as actual citizens? You tell me.
The old vets doesn't love Taiwan or China, they just love "Chinese" as a cultural entity as a whole.
For your information when someone asks me where did I come from? I always answered I am Chinese, but I come from Taiwan. Have you ever thought about how we use the word Taiwan or Taiwanese? The way we use it is not because Taiwan or Taiwanese has any actual meaning, what we're really saying is we are NOT Chinese. |
